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Reaction score. 0. Feb 8, 2015. #1. Hi all. Just joined the muzzleloader community. I bought the Traditions Vortek Ultralight. I've taken it out to the range and used the 245 grain powerbelt bullets with triple 7 pellets. A couple of friends have suggested using the Blackhorn 209 powder.Blackhorn 209 by weight is not measuring up to volume line. Impalanator; Mar 15, 2024; New to Muzzleloading; 3 4 5. Replies 87 Views 3K. Apr 8, 2024. ... How to handle BH209 with significantly different volume/weight. Doc7; Mar 22, 2022; Inline Muzzleloading; Replies 19 Views 3K. Mar 27, 2022. ronlaughlin. Parker Black Max 300 Testing. ElDiablo ...407. Mar 15, 2024. #4. Unless you are going for high precision shooting you use volume not weight for Measuring the charges. The instructions for Bh209 also say to use volume and not weight. The weight will vary from lot to lot when they manufacture the propellant. But the volume tends to stay the same.On Killing Time's information he's right in using caution with the BH 209 powder. What I found was the optimum load for my USAK was 85 grains (by volume) of BH 209 and I had great accuracy out to 150 yards and no blow back. When I experimented around 100 grains I felt that perhaps it was just a tad too much.Is this just a case of Blackhorn covering their butts? My LK-93 and my son's 209 Wolverine are of similar design as the MK85. I have the 209 conversion in the LK but the Wolverine-209 obviously comes that way from Knight and the Wolverine is rated for 150 gr. We both shoot 100gr loose FFG 777.Take your ramrod with a jag and a clean damp patch, push it all the way down the barrel of your TC Encore. Mark the ramrod where it meets the end of the barrel with a strip of masking tape. Put a 209 into the breach plug, close the gun, cock the hammer and pull the trigger.SKU: N/A Category: Breech Plugs Tags: arrowhead plug, asg gen2, cva, gen2, LRMP. $ 150.00 - $ 215.00. Converts CVA QRBP to Arrowhead Gen2 LRMP module system. Includes 20 reusable primer modules. If you want to shoot Blackhorn 209 in your CVA muzzleloader, this is the breech plug for you. Priming kit includes everything you need to prime and ...Blackhorn 209. Thread starter long shot; Start date May 22, ... Then weight to volume would be consistent per that lot. ... Wester had to sign a legal waiver acknowledging there were discrepencies between lot numbers in regards to weight vs volume and the published .7 conversion factor not holding true for some lots both up and down. I was ...Your charges are by volume. Weigh out similar volumes of BH and Pyrodex, then do the math on cost per shot. The 10 oz. BH 209 is packaged to be close to the same number of shots per container as a pound of other powders. I'm wanting to try some Harvester bullets I bought. I've seen great posting using the PT Golds and BH 209 in the Knight rifles.9,993. Reaction score. 57. Jan 15, 2016. #11. On the issue of using BlackHorn 209 in a Knight LK-93 ... it is a plunger style rifle. Some call them hammer striker rifles. If you go to the Black Horn site, they will warn you not to use their powder in plunger style rifles for safety reasons.It works out to 79% instead of the 70% that everyone uses for volume to weight conversion. ... Blackhorn says 120 gr of their powder by volume weighs 84 gr by weight. Sounds like your tube is wrong. ... I see a light 30k pressure with a 209 charge many posters would run away from. What is the pressure with a 500 300 200gr bullet.I made a conversion chart for 80 to 120 grains volume by averaging all 3, and rounding to the nearest 0.5 grains. My multiplier is .69, but for practicality the .70 multiplier is the easiest to remember. gV = grains VOLUME gW = grains WEIGHT gV gW 80 = 55 85 = 58.5 90 = 62 95 = 65.5 100 = 69 105 = 72.5 110 = 76 115 = 79.5 120 = 83You could load up 80 (V) of BH209 with the 185gr and let her watch you shoot it. If she can shoot 80gr (V) with the Barnes 45ACP 185gr TAC-XP. At 50yds, if she put it through the ribs, put yours dragging boots, meat is on the ground. According to BH209 load data, a 50/44 180gr with 80gr is around 1800 fps.This means that 100 grains by VOLUME will weigh exactly 70 grains by WEIGHT. Western Powders still recommends measuring Blackhorn 209 with a VOLUME MEASURE. If you WEIGH your powder, you better know what you are doing! Examples below: 80 grV × 0.7 = 56 grW. 100 grV × 0.7 = 70 grW. 120 grV × 0.7 = 84 grW (Max Load)No problems to report. 209 for a hawken/sidelock is overkill. At most, a musket nipple and cap should be what you need. I shoot GOEX black powder in all my muzzleloaders (TC hawken, CVA hawken, pedersoli Penn MTN rifle, and Pedersoli kentucky pistol) and dont have any problems with ignition. 3 are using #11 caps, and the Pedersoli MTN rifle is ...Blackhorn 209 is a low residue, high performance propellant made for muzzleloaders and black powder cartridges. It is engineered to consistently shoot at higher velocities and with greater accuracy than any other muzzleloader powder available today. Like most black powder and other muzzleloading substitutes, Blackhorn 209 should be loaded by ...Powder: My goal is to be in range of 150+ grains by volume (105 grains by weight) of Blackhorn 209, otherwise I would stick with an off the shelf muzzleloader. Ignition: Federal 215M Large magnum rifle primers. ... Mostly 209 conversions with the old one. Lrmp modules with the new one. Both work well especially for bh209.Load data « blackhorn 209Remington muzzleloader ultimate load data blackhorn two part review historical above randywakeman Blackhorn breech powder bottle back aka conversionBlackhorn 209 volume to weight is not adding up for me. Blackhorn 209 Trajectory Charts - Best Picture Of Chart Anyimage.Org Check Details Blackhorn 209 weight vs. volumeBH209 Blackhorn 209 muzzleloading propellant $31.50 eachBlackhorn 209 is the first and only noncorrosive propellant made for muzzleloaders and black powder cartridges. It is engineered to consistently shoots at higher velocities and with greater accuracy than any other muzzleloader powder available today. In fact, if you compare …Muzzleloading powder observationHow to measure blackhorn 209 powder / powders How to use a powder measure & flask with blackhorn 209 powderBlackhorn 209 weight vs. volume. Blackhorn 209 Trajectory Charts - Best Picture Of Chart Anyimage.Org Check Details Remington 700 ml 209 primer hunter conversion kit, by badger ridgeOne grain by volume =.7 grns by weight.The biggest charge for black horn in a conventional muzzy is 83 weighed grns equaling 120 volume grns. I will politely disagree that bh should be volume measured. Weight measurement compinsates for differences in particle size from lot to lot.Smaller size particles packing tighter than larger size particles.Blackhorn 209 powder tubes have never been accurate after the powder has settled. Your numbers show me that either your scales, volume measure, or both are not accurate. ... Just make sure you know the conversion multiplier 1 volumetric grain of powder is equivalent to 0.7 grains by weight. 100 grains by VOLUME = 70 grains by …The cci 209m primers don't seem to be seating into the blackhorn 209 breech plug tightly and im getting a good bit of blowback. Any tips? Oct 4, 2020 #5 N. ... Yesterday I tried some 290 grain Barnes T EZ with 100 grains by volume, 70 grains weighed, of BH and was able to get a 3 shot 3/4" group at 100 and had a 1-3/4" group at 200(almost ...Mac: The volume keys on a Mac keyboard and an Apple Remote are great ways to control you Mac's volume, but that only changes the system volume, not the volume in iTunes. If that's ...Your charges are by volume. Weigh out similar volumes of BH and Pyrodex, then do the math on cost per shot. The 10 oz. BH 209 is packaged to be close to the same number of shots per container as a pound of other powders. I'm wanting to try some Harvester bullets I bought. I've seen great posting using the PT Golds and BH 209 in the Knight rifles.Technical notes on muzzleloading propellants part one Volume riders dealers standard Blackhorn 209 trajectory charts. Blackhorn 209 Trajectory Charts - Best Picture Of Chart Anyimage.Org. New face of blackhorn 209, ten years later! How to measure blackhorn 209 in weight and the difference of measuring Remington 700 ultimate muzzleloader review ...The manual states this rifle is intended for loose powder and I believe states maximal loads for both triple 7 and blackhorn 209. I didn't see blackhorn to be as cost effective and dont mind cleaning. I intend to measure propellant by weight as I was under the impression this was best practice for consistency.Join Date: Feb 2003. Location: Wisconsin. Posts: 21,193. original Knight Disc with BH209. Well I got my hands on a jug of Blackhorn 209 and to say I was not excited about shooting it, would be a lie. I read too many things about how great this powder is. And being the kind of person I am, I had to prove it to myself.I shoot an Endeavor. 110 Grains of Blackhorn powder. 250 grain bonded shockwaves (blue tipped) CCI "Magnum" primers (recommended with the 209) This is a combo a friend of mine who works for T/C recommended to me. I have to say that the gun cleans really well between shots so the Blachorn is impressive regarding fouling.Dec 2, 2012. 98. 0. On the bottles of BH 209 I have it lists the velocity of a number of bullet/charge combinations, the lowest charge they show is 80 grains so I thought that was the minimum. These three rifles are the ones my daughters shoot so I wanted as light a load as I dared.The one exception is the cartridge loading data for Blackhorn 209, where the loads are given by weight, just as if you were using smokeless powder. The muzzle loading loading data for Blackhorn 209 is given in volume grains just like all the other substitutes.As velocity increases over 1900 fps terminal bullet performance is controlled by bullet design combined with using heavier jackets or tougher bullet alloy. Examples of this are Swift and Nosler bullet design, Barnes and Lehigh use of tougher alloys and various tipped, FN and HP bullets of tougher lead based alloy.Blackhorn 209 Weight To Volume Chart. Powder blackhorn vs goex muzzleloader should which use Blackhorn 209 conversion chart Blackhorn 209 weight to volume chart. Blackhorn 209 Weight To Volume Chart. Randy wakeman outdoors Testing the top 5 muzzleloader bullets for accuracy at 100 yards Remington 700 ml 209 primer hunter conversion kit, by ...At 25 yards the groups are still 1 1/4 - 1 1/2 inches. The load is 100 grains of blackhorn 209 when going by volume and 67 grains when going by scale weight. The bullet is Harvester pointed tip 300 grain bullet with Harvester sabots and Remington STS 209 primers. Will going to a Federal 209A improve the groups?For everything else, I shot a 100gr and a 120gr load of powder measured by volume. Blackhorn 209 vs 777 vs Goex Black Powder: Performance. ... Like I said earlier, I acknowledge that there are factors involved here than just the weight of the pellets. For comparison, 100gr by volume of loose 777 powder weighs right at 70gr. ...Measure your BH209 by volume and then find out what your charges are by weight. Then weigh all charges. 10 to 15 gr of "holy black" under the BH209 will give sure fire ignition of the BH209, sidehammer and inline, on sidehammer I use 4F for duplex and on inline use F, I use "Spitfire" nipples, mostly musket size, even on the rifles.9,993. Reaction score. 57. Jan 15, 2016. #11. On the issue of using BlackHorn 209 in a Knight LK-93 ... it is a plunger style rifle. Some call them hammer striker rifles. If you go to the Black Horn site, they will warn you not to use their powder in plunger style rifles for safety reasons.went to cabelas, picked up my powder, some powder tubes and everything needed to get rolling. How do you measure the 209. The guy who helped me said just fill the tube half way between 90 and 100 for a 95 grain load, seemed a little iffy to me? ThanksDec 1, 2020. #3. I have the same powder measure and have noticed the same thing. 90 grains by volume measures out closer to 70 by weight for me. When I transfer a 70 grain (weight) charge to one of the blackhorn 209 graduated tubes, it often will indicate closer to 90 grains by volume. If I give the tube a small shake it loosens up the powder ...Blackhorn 209 does provide more velocity for it's grain weight. There is not much difference in killing power between 90 grains and 110 grains except the accuracy on paper. There is not much difference in killing power between 90 grains and 110 grains except the accuracy on paper.Blackhorn 209: Blackhorn 209 is the first non-corrosive propellant for muzzleloaders and black powder cartridges. Swabbing between shots or immediate cleaning is not necessary. Blackhorn 209 is not affected by temperature of humidity and cleans with regular solvents. It's noncorrosive and low residue characteristics allows easy breech plug removal.9,993. Reaction score. 57. Nov 10, 2008. #2. My understanding was with BlackHorn 209 it never said it did not have to be cleaned out of the barrel, it just said that it would not have to be immediately cleaned out like some of the other powders. Any time you ignite something which then creates a fire on metal you have changed the chemical base ...May 12, 2017. #1. Hey guys, I'm gonna be trying BH209 for my first time out of my new Mountaineer, and from everything I've read on here and other places is that measuring BH209 by weight is more accurate/consistent than measuring by volume. This obviously makes sense. I'm wondering though, just how much of a difference will I see in accuracy ...Pretty simple really: Get 3 lots of BH 209 that differ noticeably in volume to weight per lot. Fire 3 shots from each bottle at 100 grV and compare the velocities. If they are essentially the same, you can stop there. Volume rules. If the velocities are different, then you take 70 gr by weight of each powder and shoot 3 times with each.Dec 13, 2022 · Remington 700 ml 209 primer hunter conversion kit, by badger ridge ... Muzzleloader blackhornBlackhorn pistol Blackhorn 209 weight vs. volumeRemington ultimate ... Personally I feel that this makes each charge more closely the same. This is from the Blackhorn website: If you prefer to weigh charges, you can convert the volume load recommendations into weighed grains by multiplying the volume load by 0.7. Example: 100 units by volume x 0.7 = 70 grains by weight. 110 volume charge x 0.7 = 77 grains …Jul 3, 2014. Messages. 4,280. Location. arkansas or ohio. gunpowder is meant to be weighed. the only reason volume came to exist is because it is too hard to carry a scale afield. volume works, and works well, but it is only an approximation of a given weight. also black powder and its subs is very forgiving.A fresh charge prior to the hunt is the best charge. Stored properly, Blackhorn 209 has an indefinite life. It remains consistent, and is good to the last drop. When working up a load with 250 � 300 grain projectiles, 90 � 110 grains by volume seems to be the window of best performance.Shot 85.5grs of Blackhorn 209, 250 Shockwave and supplied sabot, and CCI209m primer, and shot better than an inch group. 85.5 weight is near 120gr volume. heavybarrel. muznut. Mossy Horns.So, if I wanted to do a 150 grain load, I'd be looking at 135 grains by volume. On the pellets, it depends on which pellets you are using. The T7 Magnum pellets are 60 grain equivalent so two is you max load. Both T7 loose and pellets burn very close to what BH209 burns, peak pressure-wise.The only concession I made to the volumetric method is that for every new lot of BH209 I open up, I throw 10 charges with a volume measure, weigh each one, average them out and it's that weight to volume formula that I use to weigh all my charges. 10ths of a grain of BH209 can affect accuracy which is why I'll always weigh my charges.Bolt Action: DO NOT exceed 120 volumetric units of Blackhorn 209. Bighorn: DO NOT exceed 100 volumetric units of Blackhorn 209. Littlehorn: DO NOT exceed 80 volumetric units of Blackhorn 209. TK2000: DO NOT use. * Blackhorn 209 NOT for use with flintlock, #11 percussion or musket caps. Thanks for reading Welcome to Knight - Proper ...The VOLUME to WEIGHT conversion multiplier for Triple Se7en loose powder can vary a bit. ... Blackhorn 209 by weight is not measuring up to volume line. Impalanator; Mar 15, 2024; New to Muzzleloading; 3 4 5. Replies 87 Views 3K. Apr 8, 2024. Smyrnagc. D. Triple 7 FFFG weight vs. volume and Bullet to bore.Like all of the Paramount models, the HTR is designed to handle "super-magnum" propellant charges up to 170 grains by volume (119 by weight) of Blackhorn® 209. Therefore, the Paramount HTR can provide muzzle velocities comparable to centerfire rifles. You might start at about 70 grains by volume, working up in 5 or 10 gThe volume is somewhat static at 120 grains, but the finished Blackhorn 209 weight to volume chartSealed breech 209 solutions for blackhorn209 Blackhorn 209 powderBlackhorn 209 high volume charge tubes. Blackhorn breech powder bottle back akaPowder blackhorn vs goex muzzleloader use should which started got let ve way now Blackhorn 209 conversion chartBlackhorn accurate powder …Blackhorn 209 Blackpowder. Thread starter robinhood06; Start date Feb 3, 2013; Help Support Modern Muzzleloading Forum: ... The max charge for Blackhorn is 84 grains With the black powder subs, you need to know the conversion factor, otherwise you could over charge your muzzleloader. ... to go with weight. Muzzle velocity (245g bullet, 23 3/8" barrel, 80g by weight Blackhorn) is 1955 fps. Reply. M. Mcgiiver1 Member. Joined Jan 10, 2016 ... Blackhorn 209 by weight is not measuring up to volume line ...NW La. I use a digital scale with BH. Works like a champ. I take a powder measure and see what 5 average on the digital, then weigh them all. With my latest batch of BH209, 110grn vol weighs 84grn on my RCBS CM1500. Weighed several before the season and put them in glass vials. Sep 4, 2008 · Posts: 3,092. RE: Volume / Weight for BH209....